Posts by Island Man

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INTERVIEW: with an Elder

by TerryWalstrom in

elder: "i'm not sure i know what you mean by 'diversity.'.

elder: "well, it's not quite like that.

elder: "um.

I think too some repentant people are disfellowshipped purely for the sake of the congregation protecting its image and the image of the organization. For example, if a JW commits a sin that becomes very widespread public knowledge then it is likely that he will be disfellowshipped even if he is genuinely repentant. They do this to try and save face with the public by in effect saying: "this man is not a true JW, his actions do not reflect what we stand for, he has been removed from our group. This is how we deal with wrongdoers - unlike the other churches in christendom who tolerate serious wrongdoers.". So they would put their image above forgiveness when a JW commits a very public sin but is genuinely repentant.

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JW Org Flags at R.C.

by ToesUp in

photo was posted on jw-archive.

j.w.org flags flying at the 2015 r.c.

in fribourg, switzerland..

Island Man

tiki: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the Gbody and the ludicrosity for which it stands..one org under 8 crazies with poverty and ignorance for all...

Damn! You almost made me spill my milk lol!

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Index of acronyms : help for new forumers

by Mary J Blige in

am finding a whole lot of acronyms that are really foreign to me and i now have an appreciation for what cult language sounds like to non-culters.

wondering please if you can post your definitions so i can get up to speed.

otherwise, as an indoctrinated ex-culter, i am inclined to create my own new light and swiftly it will be gospel.

Island Man

Filthful and Discredited Slave, Faith-fooled and Discredited Slave = Faithful and Discreet Slave

Gaffe-earning Body, Gaffe-honing Body = Governing Body

Wash-towel Babble and Crap Society, Wash-towel Babylon Crap Society = Watchtower Bible and Tract Society

Minstrel Serf Ant = Ministerial Servant

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BREAKING NEWS!!!

by DATA-DOG in

breaking news from co!!

according to a reliable source, the co in my area says that jws may have been hearing the phrase, "final push" being used.

what sage advice did this shepherd, duke, and "star" of revelation have to say?

Island Man

BREAKING NEWS! is a very serious term that should not be used cheaply or abused.

When I read the title you really had me on the edge of my seat expecting to get some exciting revelation like news of AM III being caught in the back seat of a car with a male prostitute wearing tight pants; and then I open the thread and all I get is news of the cultic, apocalyptic bamboozling of a Circus Oversneer?

Please do not do that to me again, DATA-DOG!

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I find it hard to believe that Terrence Howard isn't awake.

by Island Man in

for those who don't know, terrence howard is an actor who has had some exposure to "the truth" and has spoken positively about the jw religion in a past interview saying he would become a jw if he could.. i've started watching wayward pines where terrence howard stars as the town sheriff.

there are some striking cult parallels between the show and some facets of jw cult culture.

~ people who try to leave wayward pines are subject to punishment.

Island Man

I've just finished watching episode 5. I now know TTAWP (The Truth About Wayward Pines lol)

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I find it hard to believe that Terrence Howard isn't awake.

by Island Man in

for those who don't know, terrence howard is an actor who has had some exposure to "the truth" and has spoken positively about the jw religion in a past interview saying he would become a jw if he could.. i've started watching wayward pines where terrence howard stars as the town sheriff.

there are some striking cult parallels between the show and some facets of jw cult culture.

~ people who try to leave wayward pines are subject to punishment.

Island Man

cappytan: Island Man: I assume you haven't watched episodes 5 and 6 yet?

No, I haven't. I'm in the middle of 3 right now.

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Anthony Morris III: "...we cannot control everything that an individual might say..."

by cappytan in

i noticed that anthony morris iii just said on the broadcast: "while we cannot control everything that an individual might say, it is clear that over the decades protecting children from abuse is a top priority for this organization.".

that, in my opinion, is a direct response to the richard ashe "spiritual protection not physical protection" deposition.. here's a video putting the two statements side by side.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgevpuyn7gy.

Island Man

leaving_quitely, I agree with most of what you said. However, when it comes to an unproven allegation, I don't think the elders should inform the family heads of the name of the individual that was accused. They should simply inform them that a member of the congregation has been accused of pedophilia and that as a precaution they're telling all parents to not leave their children alone with ANY adults in the congregation, no matter how trustworthy they think they are - no elders, no ministerial servants, no pioneers, no one! and they must accompany them to the bathroom.

Furthermore, when informing the parents the elders should take the opportunity to ask the parents if their child has ever said anything to them about the behavior of any member of the congregation regarding them touching the child inappropriately. You see, it may be that the accused touched another child but when the child told the parent, the parent brushed it off as a misunderstanding. By not telling the parents the name of the accused, it ensures that if the accused did in fact touch another child, then the parent or child giving that same name would constitute an unbiased corroboration - unbiased by the knowledge of the identity of the accused in the current case - that the accused is indeed a pedophile.

It would also serve to protect the reputation of the accused from any stigma should it later turn out that the accusation was untrue, because sometimes the stigma can continue on the accused even after he was shown to be innocent.

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I find it hard to believe that Terrence Howard isn't awake.

by Island Man in

for those who don't know, terrence howard is an actor who has had some exposure to "the truth" and has spoken positively about the jw religion in a past interview saying he would become a jw if he could.. i've started watching wayward pines where terrence howard stars as the town sheriff.

there are some striking cult parallels between the show and some facets of jw cult culture.

~ people who try to leave wayward pines are subject to punishment.

Island Man

I wish to publicly distance myself from the allegations made by Illuminated. They in no way reflect my opinion or view of Terrence Howard or how I would want others to think of him. The allegations are purely those of Illuminated. I will not be held liable for any harm done to the reputation of Terrence Howard resulting from the allegations made by Illuminated. I am taking the reasonable action of flagging Illuminated's post as further practical evidence of distancing myself from it.

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I find it hard to believe that Terrence Howard isn't awake.

by Island Man in

for those who don't know, terrence howard is an actor who has had some exposure to "the truth" and has spoken positively about the jw religion in a past interview saying he would become a jw if he could.. i've started watching wayward pines where terrence howard stars as the town sheriff.

there are some striking cult parallels between the show and some facets of jw cult culture.

~ people who try to leave wayward pines are subject to punishment.

Island Man

By the way, my personal theory about the show is that the main character is actually suffering from a psychotic delusional paranoia brought on by the trauma of the accident. The hidden plot is similar to that of the movie Shutter Island, where the star was mentally insane. I have this feeling based on the doctor telling him to have his head examined and have surgery.

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I find it hard to believe that Terrence Howard isn't awake.

by Island Man in

for those who don't know, terrence howard is an actor who has had some exposure to "the truth" and has spoken positively about the jw religion in a past interview saying he would become a jw if he could.. i've started watching wayward pines where terrence howard stars as the town sheriff.

there are some striking cult parallels between the show and some facets of jw cult culture.

~ people who try to leave wayward pines are subject to punishment.

Island Man

For those who don't know, Terrence Howard is an actor who has had some exposure to "The Truth" and has spoken positively about the JW religion in a past interview saying he would become a JW if he could.

I've started watching Wayward Pines where Terrence Howard stars as the Town sheriff. There are some striking cult parallels between the show and some facets of JW cult culture. Example:

~ People who try to leave Wayward Pines are subject to punishment. Try to leave JWs and you face shunning.

~ People in Wayward Pines are forbidden to speak of their past. Terrence Howard's character executes a woman guilty of this crime. Watchtower tries to hide their past by not making their old publications available electronically; and speaking about Watchtower's embarrassing teachings of the past could result in your being suspected of doubting or apostatizing, and even leading to the punishment of expulsion and shunning if you point to historical facts refuting the JW religion's claim of exclusive divine favor.

~ When the sheriff, played by Terrence Howard, executes a woman guilty of speaking of her past, he gives a speech about the very loving community that exists at Wayward Pines where they all look out for each other and even sometimes protect one another from each other. This woman was caught by the whole community chasing her as a mob. Reminds me of the JWs policy of ratting on each other and referring to those who criticize the organization as a spiritual threat to be lovingly removed or disciplined by means of shunning.

~ The crowd chants the cult rule: "Do not try to leave". Then Howard's character joins in with the rhetorical question: "where else is there for us to go?" Sounds familiar? LOL.

So do you think Terrence Howard still feels positively about JWs? Do you think he notices any similarities between JWs and the cult of Wayward Pines?